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	<title>Comments on: Reusing phone numbers</title>
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		<title>By: Fountain of Apples</title>
		<link>http://www.ericfaerber.com/2006/03/15/reusing-phone-numbers/#comment-451</link>
		<dc:creator>Fountain of Apples</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Mar 2006 05:28:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, yes, unfortunately, you do have to pay for incoming. It is stupid, and really sucks when someone calls you and it's a wrong number--you just paid for their mistake!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, yes, unfortunately, you do have to pay for incoming. It is stupid, and really sucks when someone calls you and it&#8217;s a wrong number&#8211;you just paid for their mistake!</p>
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		<title>By: smithy_dll</title>
		<link>http://www.ericfaerber.com/2006/03/15/reusing-phone-numbers/#comment-425</link>
		<dc:creator>smithy_dll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Mar 2006 01:58:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thats absolute crap. No way in hell should you have to pay for incomming calls. I mean you don't have to pay incomming on land line, why should it be any different for mobile communications. At least they don't double dip on SMS messages!

If you are on pre-paid here you have to buy your home, but you can get heavily discounted ones that are network locked etc... If you sign up for a plan, you can get a free phone, even on small $25 per month plans.

I'm not saying Australia is perfect (because it isn't), but at least we don't practice the ludacris act of charging for incomming calls, I mean for $20 credit on vodafone I get 20 vodafone-to-vodafone minutes, 20c flag fall, 25c SMS messages, 1c per second call charge (charged by the second) and 365 days to use the credit, and there after 6 months network access on which I can still recieve calls, SMS messages and even MMS.

A difference I can see, it we are marketed 'credits', and you are marketed 'call minutes'. The offset is that mobile communications seem to be cheaper for you guys than us, unless of course you pay more and get on one of those caps where you get like $700 worth of credit by paying something like $50 or $70.

One thing I can seem to find is how SMS messaging charges are deducted from your account :S http://www.t-mobile.com/prepaid/rates.asp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thats absolute crap. No way in hell should you have to pay for incomming calls. I mean you don&#8217;t have to pay incomming on land line, why should it be any different for mobile communications. At least they don&#8217;t double dip on SMS messages!</p>
<p>If you are on pre-paid here you have to buy your home, but you can get heavily discounted ones that are network locked etc&#8230; If you sign up for a plan, you can get a free phone, even on small $25 per month plans.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying Australia is perfect (because it isn&#8217;t), but at least we don&#8217;t practice the ludacris act of charging for incomming calls, I mean for $20 credit on vodafone I get 20 vodafone-to-vodafone minutes, 20c flag fall, 25c SMS messages, 1c per second call charge (charged by the second) and 365 days to use the credit, and there after 6 months network access on which I can still recieve calls, SMS messages and even MMS.</p>
<p>A difference I can see, it we are marketed &#8216;credits&#8217;, and you are marketed &#8216;call minutes&#8217;. The offset is that mobile communications seem to be cheaper for you guys than us, unless of course you pay more and get on one of those caps where you get like $700 worth of credit by paying something like $50 or $70.</p>
<p>One thing I can seem to find is how SMS messaging charges are deducted from your account :S <a href="http://www.t-mobile.com/prepaid/rates.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.t-mobile.com/prepaid/rates.asp</a></p>
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		<title>By: Fountain of Apples</title>
		<link>http://www.ericfaerber.com/2006/03/15/reusing-phone-numbers/#comment-423</link>
		<dc:creator>Fountain of Apples</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Mar 2006 01:01:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David, unless you want to pay about $80/month for a special plan, you pay for incoming calls. That fact is basically a GIVEN for cell phones in the USA, always has been.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David, unless you want to pay about $80/month for a special plan, you pay for incoming calls. That fact is basically a GIVEN for cell phones in the USA, always has been.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://www.ericfaerber.com/2006/03/15/reusing-phone-numbers/#comment-418</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Mar 2006 22:15:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most plans here the minutes are both for incoming and outgoing.  You have to specifically choose a plan with or pay for an extra feature to get free incoming.  I get incoming text messages for free though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most plans here the minutes are both for incoming and outgoing.  You have to specifically choose a plan with or pay for an extra feature to get free incoming.  I get incoming text messages for free though.</p>
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		<title>By: Xore</title>
		<link>http://www.ericfaerber.com/2006/03/15/reusing-phone-numbers/#comment-417</link>
		<dc:creator>Xore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Mar 2006 12:37:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My plan includes free incoming. I try to invite people to call me much more than i actively go a-calling, so while i still get the occasional person phoning for some guy named... Guy... at least it's not wasting my minutes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My plan includes free incoming. I try to invite people to call me much more than i actively go a-calling, so while i still get the occasional person phoning for some guy named&#8230; Guy&#8230; at least it&#8217;s not wasting my minutes.</p>
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		<title>By: smithy_dll</title>
		<link>http://www.ericfaerber.com/2006/03/15/reusing-phone-numbers/#comment-416</link>
		<dc:creator>smithy_dll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Mar 2006 08:53:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have to pay to answer the phone? Thats bull****. I would try to find a pre-paid provider that doesn't do that, none in Australia do it to my knowledge. Also to my knowledge, all providers in Australia give you 6 months network access after your credit runs out on which you can recharge your credit, but still answer calls.

I am with vodafone on prepaid, you get 365 days to use your credit, and so far it's been good and I've been happy with switching to them, and it cost me nothing to keep my number.

If I were in your position, since you haven't had your phone long, I would seriously consider ringing up T-mobile and ask them for a new number.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have to pay to answer the phone? Thats bull****. I would try to find a pre-paid provider that doesn&#8217;t do that, none in Australia do it to my knowledge. Also to my knowledge, all providers in Australia give you 6 months network access after your credit runs out on which you can recharge your credit, but still answer calls.</p>
<p>I am with vodafone on prepaid, you get 365 days to use your credit, and so far it&#8217;s been good and I&#8217;ve been happy with switching to them, and it cost me nothing to keep my number.</p>
<p>If I were in your position, since you haven&#8217;t had your phone long, I would seriously consider ringing up T-mobile and ask them for a new number.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://www.ericfaerber.com/2006/03/15/reusing-phone-numbers/#comment-415</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Mar 2006 00:33:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>T-Mobile is what I have too.  I had a used phone which I am using so I didn't have to buy one.  Phones are expensive!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>T-Mobile is what I have too.  I had a used phone which I am using so I didn&#8217;t have to buy one.  Phones are expensive!</p>
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		<title>By: Fountain of Apples</title>
		<link>http://www.ericfaerber.com/2006/03/15/reusing-phone-numbers/#comment-414</link>
		<dc:creator>Fountain of Apples</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Mar 2006 00:30:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also have prepaid (with T-Mobile). That hasn't happened to me, but my very-expensive phone which isn't even 6 months old yet with all the extra features? Well, the extra features flat out don't work, and never have; only the phone works. That is, it worked. 3 weeks ago, I stopped getting a reception from T-Mobile, and I still don't have one. I've been keeping my minutes up-to-date though...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also have prepaid (with T-Mobile). That hasn&#8217;t happened to me, but my very-expensive phone which isn&#8217;t even 6 months old yet with all the extra features? Well, the extra features flat out don&#8217;t work, and never have; only the phone works. That is, it worked. 3 weeks ago, I stopped getting a reception from T-Mobile, and I still don&#8217;t have one. I&#8217;ve been keeping my minutes up-to-date though&#8230;</p>
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